When she learned of her husband's arrest, Carrie acted surprised, Kavan said. In those early interviews, she also never indicated there was trouble with any of the neighbors and said that Joneses stuck to themselves. Another recording of Lundahl talking to two other neighbors was played during the hearing with one of the neighbors indicating he saw both of the Joneses running from the Ebeling home after an explo - sion and the house started on fire.
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